Comments on: Olympics Game Four: Spain http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/ In a basement. In our pajamas. Tue, 17 Apr 2012 22:38:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: $nave http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5373 $nave Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:27:32 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5373 The only difference in the Spain game and all the game prior for Carmelo is that his shot actually fell. He still looks inactive and D-Wade should be starting in his spot. The only difference in the Spain game and all the game prior for Carmelo is that his shot actually fell. He still looks inactive and D-Wade should be starting in his spot.

]]> By: Didier http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5319 Didier Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:14:30 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5319 to-shay to-shay

]]> By: Caleb http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5308 Caleb Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:04:39 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5308 Stats don't always tell the whole story... even in a stat-heavy sport like Basketball. In particular, defense is hard to measure statistically. You can measure steals and blocks, yes, but not much else. Defensive pressure... how well a player defends other players and forces bad shots or rattles the offensive scheme... these things aren't tallied, Posey is known for this to a greater extent than Peterson is. He's also able to play the 2, 3 and even 4 positions... whereas Peterson generally stays at the 2. But if you do want to look at stats... Posey does have some key advantages over Peterson - as a defensive rebounder (look at drpg, and also look at defreb% - considerably higher than Petersons) and as a general contributer, particularly defensively, to his team's wins (look at win shares and defensive win shares, he has about 2x as many as Peterson in his career). And the most important advantage Posey has over Peterson is that he's proven himself to be a big-time performer in big-time games... and he And I wouldn't worry about Posey "looking to party in NO." His DUI notwithstanding... he's known as a committed, passionate and hard-working player. PS - I'm not knocking Peterson. He's a great player and I'm quite glad to have both of these guys on the team. And in regards to Pargo... he was a shoot-first guard too, a lot like Mike James... not a spectacular ballhandler or playmaker. I'm not too worried about losing Pargo, but we'll have to wait and see whether James can be an adequate backup or not. Stats don’t always tell the whole story… even in a stat-heavy sport like Basketball. In particular, defense is hard to measure statistically. You can measure steals and blocks, yes, but not much else. Defensive pressure… how well a player defends other players and forces bad shots or rattles the offensive scheme… these things aren’t tallied, Posey is known for this to a greater extent than Peterson is. He’s also able to play the 2, 3 and even 4 positions… whereas Peterson generally stays at the 2.

But if you do want to look at stats… Posey does have some key advantages over Peterson – as a defensive rebounder (look at drpg, and also look at defreb% – considerably higher than Petersons) and as a general contributer, particularly defensively, to his team’s wins (look at win shares and defensive win shares, he has about 2x as many as Peterson in his career).

And the most important advantage Posey has over Peterson is that he’s proven himself to be a big-time performer in big-time games… and he

And I wouldn’t worry about Posey “looking to party in NO.” His DUI notwithstanding… he’s known as a committed, passionate and hard-working player.

PS – I’m not knocking Peterson. He’s a great player and I’m quite glad to have both of these guys on the team. And in regards to Pargo… he was a shoot-first guard too, a lot like Mike James… not a spectacular ballhandler or playmaker. I’m not too worried about losing Pargo, but we’ll have to wait and see whether James can be an adequate backup or not.

]]> By: Didier http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5280 Didier Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:39:28 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5280 James posey and Morris petersons stats are almost ver batem both the same height same age everything 3pt% Steals MPG TO. I guess two is better than one. I just hope he's not still high from comming off a championship run and not looking to party in N.O. and be caught with his pants down. He as with all the hornets got work to do this upcomming season. James posey and Morris petersons stats are almost ver batem both the same height same age everything 3pt% Steals MPG TO. I guess two is better than one. I just hope he’s not still high from comming off a championship run and not looking to party in N.O. and be caught with his pants down. He as with all the hornets got work to do this upcomming season.

]]> By: Didier http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5279 Didier Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:28:31 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5279 I liked pargo he was inconsistant but, no ofense, what role player isn't? I believe he was a good ballhandler and relief for CP... streaky yes. I guess i thought he wasn't going to leave. I rather have Pargo than M.James. Posey ull do well in NOLA, but if we didn't have to pay him so much we could have kept pargo. Mike James is a spot up shooter not quite like pargo ball handling skills. i dunno i'll miss pargo. I hope that international play wont mess up nba's role players. Josh childress, janearo pargo there gone, they'll probably be starters in Europe. I heard that FIBA is going to change there lanes to rectangles and add 2.5 feet to the 3pt line. thats my rant I liked pargo he was inconsistant but, no ofense, what role player isn’t? I believe he was a good ballhandler and relief for CP… streaky yes. I guess i thought he wasn’t going to leave. I rather have Pargo than M.James. Posey ull do well in NOLA, but if we didn’t have to pay him so much we could have kept pargo. Mike James is a spot up shooter not quite like pargo ball handling skills. i dunno i’ll miss pargo.

I hope that international play wont mess up nba’s role players. Josh childress, janearo pargo there gone, they’ll probably be starters in Europe. I heard that FIBA is going to change there lanes to rectangles and add 2.5 feet to the 3pt line. thats my rant

]]> By: mW http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5272 mW Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:42:36 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5272 I think a really good comment was made earlier this year about James Posey, and I wish I remember who said it. But they said that someone would overpay for Posey, but if he was the guy who pushed them over the top and made them Champions, can you really say that's overpaying? That's my take on Posey. I think a really good comment was made earlier this year about James Posey, and I wish I remember who said it. But they said that someone would overpay for Posey, but if he was the guy who pushed them over the top and made them Champions, can you really say that’s overpaying? That’s my take on Posey.

]]> By: Caleb http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5270 Caleb Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:41:53 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5270 In response to Didier: Everyone knows Posey is probably overpaid... but it doesn't matter, because we all know he will be valuable and will bolster the production of the bench. Overpaying players is just something you have to do sometimes... And Mo Pete's twin? C'mon. I like Peterson... but since when has he been known as one of the league's premier defenders? That's right, never. With Posey we now have an incredible amount of versatility at the 2 and 3 positions... that's nothing to scoff at. In response to Didier: Everyone knows Posey is probably overpaid… but it doesn’t matter, because we all know he will be valuable and will bolster the production of the bench. Overpaying players is just something you have to do sometimes… And Mo Pete’s twin? C’mon. I like Peterson… but since when has he been known as one of the league’s premier defenders? That’s right, never.

With Posey we now have an incredible amount of versatility at the 2 and 3 positions… that’s nothing to scoff at.

]]> By: Didier http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5269 Didier Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:18:25 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5269 We paid mopet's twin(posey) too much money, Why Why Why? i'm upset. We paid mopet’s twin(posey) too much money, Why Why Why? i’m upset.

]]> By: mW http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5268 mW Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:17:39 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5268 Yeah. Pargo's going to Dynamo Moscow. I liked him when he was here, but he was a tad inconsistent. I think the team is convinced Mike James can back up CP just fine. Yeah. Pargo’s going to Dynamo Moscow. I liked him when he was here, but he was a tad inconsistent. I think the team is convinced Mike James can back up CP just fine.

]]> By: Didier http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/comment-page-1/#comment-5267 Didier Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:11:02 +0000 http://hornetshype.com/wp/2008/08/16/olympics-game-three-spain/#comment-5267 Has anybody heard of Pargo going to Moscow? That suckss. Has anybody heard of Pargo going to Moscow? That suckss.

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