Comments on: HiltonWatch: Snowy Edition

By: Kamo

Kamo — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:21:23 +0000

BTW i checked andersen’s, he’s averaging 5.2 rebounds, a curious .333% from the arc and a monster 2.4, 2.4!! blocks in 17 minutes..that’s way crazy..what if we wouldn’t have let him go away? We’d be perfect with our back-up bigs and we wouldn’t have signed a useless marks (even more expensive than andersen if i’m not mistaking)…

By: ticktock6

ticktock6 — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:22:26 +0000

How can some of those guys be better than Hilton this year? I’ve never even heard of them. I don’t even know what team they play for.

Wait, you’re seriously going to tell me there are fans of this league who don’t know who Hilton Armstrong is?

No. No. I just won’t believe it.

By: mW

mW — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:10:57 +0000

I would totally prefer Hilton over Boone, Wallace (b/c of age), Noah, Gadzuric, Battie, Mohammed, Hollins, Wilcox, Petro, Moore, Davis, or Darko, numbers be damned.

Maybe Foster, Nesterovic, Frye, Lopez (so early), Hawes (ditto), but none is really great, either. The latter two could still develop.

I’d definitely rather have Pachulia, McGee, or Oden, but the latter two are pegged as starters, so I’m not sure I’d count them, but if not Oden, Pryzbilla is pretty damn good. As Kamo pointed out, obviously Kaman/Camby is better. Honestly, tough call with Birdman too, but obviously there are other issues with him.

Interestingly list, but I’ll beg to differ. Hilton’s showing heart. That’s step one. Once that heart leads to success, there will be more confidence. That’s step two. After that, it’s all downhill. Fingers crossed.

By: atthehive

atthehive — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:54:58 +0000

Not to bring the negativity here… but you did dare me!

Stastically, Josh Boone, Ben Wallace, Joakim Noah, Dan Gadzuric, Jeff Foster, Rasho Nesterovic, Tony Battie, Zaza Pachulia, Nazr Mohammed, Ryan Hollins, Javale McGee, Greg Oden, Channing Frye, Chris Wilcox, Johan Petro, Robin Lopez, Spencer Hawes, Mikki Moore, Paul Davis (!!!), and Darko have been significantly better than Hilton since he’s been in the league. And those are just guys listed as Centers.

(Watch me be totally proven wrong as Hilt eats Boston alive tonight… )

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:33:20 +0000

I was going to go and list a few, but I realize that really isn’t the point, heh.

Unfortunately, while HiltonWatch is improving and better than last year, it still leaves with some issues at the post. We don’t really have a post game (and most ‘chip teams do have at least the option), and Ceiling Fan gets into foul trouble when he’s aggressive. Yes, CFRM is our frontline, and yes, HiltonWatch is second/third, but when CFRM goes down early, we need more than ’sufficient’ from HiltonWatch.

High expectations? Yeah. But realize it’s because the potential is there.

Good post. Hopefully HiltonWatch’ll read it as more motivation.

By: Kamo

Kamo — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:02:50 +0000

Back-up c better’n hilton? You know, i just searched a bit, and it’s hard to say a thing like that, because many teams don’t have a true back-up center..i’d say the pacer’s foster, clippers’ camby (or kaman, whoever they will seat), bucks’ elson isn’t too bad, wolves’ love is a pretty good back-up, greg oden/joel pryzbilla, spencer hawes, nick collison/joe smith, paul millsap and hey what about chris andersen? Maybe they’re not all pure C (but i believe armstrong would be better at the 4 than the 5), but they’re pretty good back-ups, and almost all of them better’n hilton. But apart from a few, they’re all older’n armstrong who can develop in a nice back-up C, since he’s really been improving this season

By: ticktock6

ticktock6 — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:51:57 +0000

We both commented that it was too bad Hilton didn’t have any points in the last game. He was being solid, he just hadn’t gotten a shot. Really they ought to have gone to him down low instead of Marks.

By: NOEngineer

NOEngineer — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:44:41 +0000

Agreed. I see much better performance on the defensive end. He still has one or so possessions a game where he loses his man, but that is down from last year. His offense has improved as well. He sets some REALLY solid picks when he is in there with CP3. He seems to make as many jumpers as Sean Marks. He has improved his ability to finish at the rim. He makes his free throws. I would set two objectives for Hilton for this year: keep feet moving on defense to avoid fouling, and learn to catch the ball and control it. These are the things that separate Tyson from Hilton right now.