Comments on: The Discourse of Lebron.

By: mW

mW — Wed, 27 May 2009 03:22:58 +0000

Don’t get me wrong. If I was a Cavs fan, I’d want him to play well. But I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about the representation of Lebron and how it’s an entirely manufactured package, which the media, public, and even the League accept as truth when it’s just image based upon solely itself. Lebron’s myth is self-perpetuating. As Russ Bengston and Courtside point out, the man has yet to win anything. And to that, the best retort some can offer is a single grammatical critique? Touché.

By: Ryan Schwan

Ryan Schwan — Wed, 27 May 2009 03:06:10 +0000

I’ve said much the same before over at h247.

LeBron has a statue of himself in his house’s entry hall. That’s all I needed to know about him.

By: DennardC_1

DennardC_1 — Tue, 26 May 2009 23:28:20 +0000

I’m never sleeping on this blog again. Awesome post, and even awesomer comments.

By: @KevinHignett

@KevinHignett — Tue, 26 May 2009 21:21:19 +0000

The nickname “King James” wasn’t given to him by Nike and it didn’t come “before he ever played a game.” It was given to him by his friends/teammates in high school, where he dominated. Those guys are now part of the company that promotes him. No surprise there.

And, I’m sorry, the “inclusiveness of Michael Jordan”???? Are you kidding me? Dude was the most egocentric, me-first player on the planet until his second tour with the Bulls when he realized he could win easier with teamwork. You pretty much blow all credibility right there.

Add to all this that, as the “LeBron to NY” hype was an example, LeBron has always loved the attention. Even in high school. He wore Reeboks in a game when he knew Nike and Adidas reps were in the crowd, then switched it up when the Reebok guys were there. He KNOWS everyone is watching and loves it. Doesn’t make him a bad guy and if you have a problem with the words the “media” is using to talk about him, isn’t it hypocritical to say “fuck that” regarding LeBron’s complicity in that coverage? What, you want him to tell SI not to call him the Chosen One? I thought “we all have a choice over the words we use.” The media is no exception, so get over it. It’s their choice. Read the hype, don’t read the hype. That’s YOUR choice.

All of this is beside the fact that if he was a Hornet you would freaking LOVE him. That goes for fans of every team in the NBA, too.

By: buu

buu — Tue, 26 May 2009 21:17:57 +0000

wow this has gotten completely out of hand. touchy touchy on both sides of this.

By: Mo

Mo — Tue, 26 May 2009 19:00:20 +0000

I don’t dislike Lebron, but I don’t need him force fed to me.

By: ticktock6

ticktock6 — Tue, 26 May 2009 18:56:38 +0000

@Denny — If the first 6 people who said something had said something remotely like what you said, it would have negated me bitching about it on Twitter. I didn’t say they were losers because they didn’t like what I said. I said they were losers because they said my site was lame, and I was lame, and my team lost. Did we ever declare “bag on Cavs fans” day? No. If you don’t like what we blogged, fine. But questioning our right to blog it, I will goddamn well take as a personal insult or at least as being dismissive. It was meant to be.

And come on. There are only 5 or so really great stars in the league. I think we have one of them. NO ONE has two. I said, “We don’t need LeBron. We have CP.” How is that not accurate? Would I say no to having both? Of course not. NO ONE’S going to have both. Except when they’re like 30 maybe. Maybe.

But Jesus Christ. It’s not exactly like we’re the Clippers here. The Hornets are already one of the few teams lucky enough to have a historically good player. So why exactly is it bitter of me to not want yours? If I said I wanted him, it’d be greedy. There are 24-25 other teams who don’t have a player as good as either. Maybe they’re jealous or bitter. I’m not. We have a guy as good as, or at the very least, just a rung below LeBron James, and we like him.

P.S. Twitter for me is pretty much a running stream of my thoughts. So if something pisses me off, I’ll say it. Questioning my qualifications to publish what I want on my own site pisses me off. —> “Just a tired topic that has nothing to do with Hornets basketball…” Do y’all own my site? Do you READ my site? We often post about stuff that’s not related to Hornets basketball. We’ve certainly posted about LeBron James several times in the past, and not just because we’re bitter and bored to be out of the playoffs.

By: ticktock6

ticktock6 — Tue, 26 May 2009 18:26:37 +0000

OK, OK, I get it now. I thought your comment meant you were SAYING it was a misspelling. And so I said it wasn’t.

Either way, it’s totally irrelevant and doesn’t really belong in this comment thread. (Though interestingly enough, someone just pointed out on Twitter that they thought mW had purposely said “Should have went” because that’s what LeBron would have said. I don’t think that was what he was doing–how snarky! but definitely mean– but I am not mW so I have no clue what the motivation for his TINY GRAMMATICAL ERROR was.)

“LIES!” How dramatic.

By: The Other Tim

The Other Tim — Tue, 26 May 2009 18:21:16 +0000

You’re making my argument for me. You claimed using the word “went” instead of “gone” was a typo. I called you out for that lie by pointing out that typos are generally misspellings, not grammatical errors.
Next time I’ll be more clear.
Sorry the LeBron Hype is getting under your skin. You’d think somebody with a blog called Hornets Hype would understand hype.

By: Denny

Denny — Tue, 26 May 2009 18:20:53 +0000

I can agree with the argument that LeBron is all about himself. I can agree with the fact that it’s silly to get marketing taglines tattooed on yourself, especially when they’re about… yourself. (I wonder if LeBron does the powder toss after changing his kid’s diapers, and if he looks at himself in the mirror, a la Dirk Diggler and says “We are all Witnesses” every morning).

I can also agree to a certain point that the media overblows things. At the same time, they gloss over the amazing things that other players are doing (I’m a HUGE Deron Williams fan and think he’s definitely at the same level of CP3, without getting the same fanfare). But, that’s what ESPN has become at this point – flash and no substance (did you know, they’re in LA now!!!!). If you want better sports coverage, start here. It’s what you can do to improve the sports journalism world.

I feel extremely blessed to have LeBron James on the team that I cheer for. He’s a filthy basketball player. He seems to have a decent head on his shoulders (he’s driven fast, and that’s about it in terms of getting in trouble). He’s working to position himself as not only a basketball giant, but also a business giant. Yes, ESPN, SI, etc. are helping him accomplis this. But to discount all of this and say “I don’t need LDJ, I have CP3″ comes off as jealous and bitter.

Yes, people from our site came over here and started flinging poo without really backing it up. But comon, bitching about it via Twitter and declaring how people are a bunch of losers because they don’t like what you have to say is silly.