Logical argument is apparently a lost art in today’s culture. Chris Paul, in Vegas to watch the Hornets’ Summer League team, was asked about Tyson Chandler, and how that trade might indicate that even someone like him could be traded. His response: “In this league, anything can happen,” Paul told Pro Basketball News. “I can be dealt. It’s possible. It’s possible.” Courtesy of the Times Picayune. Notice the gap in the quote? Who knows what was said in there. Nonetheless, the resulting headlines in the national media were:
- Paul says trade ‘possible.’ - Pro Basketball News
- TRADES: CP3 thinks he could be traded. - ESPN Insider
- Chris Paul thinks he could be traded. – Dimemag.com
Some headlines might be better, if one scours the net? Right? Okay. Let’s take a look around. The Times Picayune read: “New Orleans Hornets
president Hugh Weber says there’s no way Chris Paul will be traded.” Of course that headline was belied by the additional inclusion of: “the [Hornets] are desperate to dump salaries to avoid having to pay the tax penalty next summer. Due to its financial limitations, New Orleans is the only team in the Southwest Division that has yet to acquire a player through free agency or by a trade to improve its roster this offseason,” and then included the above CP quote, attributing it to Pro Basketball News. This was followed by the quotes from the Hornets organization that led to its headline, and then absolutely no comment on either. Way to analyze all the facts before you.
Sports Illustrated got close too. Their headline? “Hornets Will Not Trade Chris Paul.” Good right? Well, not if immediately followed by this: “Chris Paul told a reporter there’s chance he soon could be traded,” the article then quotes the purported financial/trade situation of the team from the TP (see the above), and then simply added that the Hornets say they won’t trade him, without bothering to include the quotes from any of the Hornets people. And again, no analysis of the information.
Chris Paul, himself, nauseated by the explosion of articles about his “imminent trade,” used Twitter to tell the world: “Jus for the record too…I’M NOT GOIN ANYWHERE!!! No clue what Chris Thomasson was talkin about, but I didn’t say any of what he was sayin.“ So there it is, the truth. No matter what was said in a hypothet, this was and is the truth. CP knows it. The Hornets basketball organization knows it. And any serious basketball fan or journalists, should damn well know it. Why would the Hornets trade CP? He’s a once in a generation talent.
Instead of letting it go at that, Pro Basketball News decided to follow up with “Paul Feeling the Pressure.” Where, Thomasson argued the whole conversation was taped, and that this was what Paul really said. Allegedly his editors listened to the tape and backed him up. Okay, but what was the context? What were the words before, after, and in between? The reason Paul doesn’t remember it, in my opinion, is because he was talking in general, how the NBA is, how no one’s safe (remember to even qualify for a no-trade clause, the player must have at least eight years of service time and four with the same team, and must then bargain for one in their contract; to my knowledge, only Kobe has one). As Hornets team President, Hugh Weber, said: “I think [Chris] was talking about the nature of the business and the fact that the question was asked the way it was.” Funny how Thomasson didn’t address that point. Just become some crafty reporter backs a star player into an awkward answer doesn’t mean his integrity is in place. To the contrary, manipulating an honest person into giving a random quote that you intend on using as an inflammatory headline proves just the opposite.
Case in point: in supporing Thomasson, notorious Chris Paul-hater, Brett Pollakoff, posted the following article on NBA Fanhouse: “Chris Paul Caught Lying on Twitter?”, in which beyond supporting his fellow “journalist,” Pollakoff called CP a jerk for pretending not to have said what he said, and naive for not understanding the media business. Right. Why would Chris think that his opinion on a throwaway hypothet would be a headline? How naive. Or maybe it’s indicative of a larger problem; funny how the media always paints it as a player being too foolish to keep his mouth shut rather than the artificial frame of discouse constructed by a willing media agent who cares more about his name in the byline and his next paycheck than even the smallest smigden of self-respect, or dare I say it, the Truth.
So how did we go from having a completely hypothetical, sure, anyone can be traded, argument to “he soon could be traded”? Simple. The almighty dollar. Today’s it’s all about the scoop. First in time, first in line. To get paid, that is. Alternatively, create a crazy enough headline and just maybe enough people will jump to your site to bump your ad revenue. What, CP is getting traded (to who)? What, CP is a jerk (what he’d do)? Either way, it’s about money. Should Freedom of the Press even apply to these people?
There was a time when “journalists” researched their sources. They got corroboration. Apparently, today, it doesn’t matter. So they have a tape and tore the quote out of context, guess that makes it okay. Besides, no one trusts the internet anyway. So what’s one more stretched truth? Moreover, who really wants truth in an age when bickering people thrown into awkward situations with suggested responses is “entertainment?” Reality television is the new gladiatorial games, and like then, the masses now eat it up. It had occurred to me that sports was the purest form of entertainment left, an honorable exercise where persons are forced to play by the same set of rules and compete, their individual and/or aggregate excellence determining the winner totally removed from any political, personal, religious, or other frame of bias. Only the media keeps ruining it.
The Truth Is Out There. Only no one’s looking for it. Although, apparently, no one misses it. Maybe we should all be to blame. We all bury our heads in the sand and accept headlines as truth when all they are is a collection of words carefully crafted by someone with an agenda. As for me? I’ll keep thinking for myself. Chris Paul is going nowhere. He’s our savior; not just for the Hornets, but for all of New Orleans. His importance is uncomparable to any other in sports right now. As we’ve said here over and over, his performance on the floor isn’t just MVP like, it’s historic. As ticktock6 shared with you all, we just went to the Basketball Hall of Fame. No Chris Paul there yet. But someday he will be. And while I hope it’s in a Hornets jersey, I can’t say that for sure. Anything’s possible.
So maybe tomorrow’s blogosphere will have headlines of “Even Hornets’ bloggers unsure Chris Paul to remain in New Orleans.” But as for me, I believe he’ll be here for a long time . It’s what Chris said, it’s what the GM said, it’s what the team president said. And it’s what I say. Make up your own mind.
Addendum 07/20/09 by Ticktock6:
It took me forever to locate this post, which I remember reading back in June, because I originally thought a Celtics blog had done it. Turns out it was a Mavs blog, but it’s a fantastic account and critique of how one basketball “news” outlet put out a Rajon Rondo trade story, lifting out-of-context quotes made in 2007 out of an article and implying that they were recent. The story was then picked up by SI, ESPN, and other major news outlets and reported as fact. This was done without double checking the first story or attempting to put context to the original quotes which they then passed on to the public. And so a whole story about how all the Celtics hate Rondo was manufactured out of nothing and perpetuated all over the internet. Rondo’s agent was pissed, and rightly so. I wanted to post this link as another example of what we’re talking about and to emphasize that we’re not against this because it’s Chris Paul– we’re against bullshit like this in general.










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Fanhouse’s moral sketchiness in all this is really underlined here by the fact that @NBAFanhouse’s teaser on Twitter before linking to the article was “Is Chris Paul just a liar, or is he a jerk too?” And then a link. http://twitter.com/NBAFanHouse/status/2712219739
Trolling for traffic much? And then when some people called them on it, they got all self-righteous and pretended to be all about “protecting the other journalist!” It’s sorta hard to call someone a jerk when you’re… um… jumping into the fray basically… being a jerk.
Like I said last night: When you fly it’s POSSIBLE the plane will nose dive and crash. Would a reasonable person infer that it is LIKELY? No.
Your post summarizes my opinions on this matter, tt6. Crap for crap’s sake is the new reporting style. ad money++.
Good stuff mW. You too ticktock6. I think what CP was saying was that he didn’t actually say he was indeed going to be traded which is what it seemed like Tomasson was alluding to. Did CP actually read the so called Tomasson article? Or did someone tell CP that Tomasson said he was going to be traded. And in turn CP said I didn’t say any of what he was saying. I’ve come to realize one thing when it comes to interviewing CP. Especially right now since they all think the Hornets are struggling so mightily. Most of these so called ‘journalists’ or writers or whatever you want to call them always seem to have an agenda. And this goes from the smallest of them to the ones on the bigger stages. Even ESPN’s J(ack) A(ss) Adande. So speaking of money, how much money do you think was made off of CP this weekend? I see the NBA Store in Vegas says his jersey along with Kobe’s has been the biggest sellers there during Summer League.
Do you guys get paid to be lazy on your jobs?
Mo, your point is what I said yesterday to some folks on Twitter. CP is not calling the original reporter a liar, necessarily. He could easily have read one of the other exaggerated reports or seen a headline in the ESPN ticker. And then he’s clearly correct in saying, “Whoa, I never said that.”
Even the SI article added the word “soon.” Why, though? No one said “soon.” They made it up. 100% made it up to make a story out of something that wasn’t a story.
Uh, this is TT6, by the way, even if the picture says mW. I didn’t feel like logging him out.
It that kind of hard hitting fake reporting that keeps FanHouse afloat. hit count++
Well I’m not keeping up with these shenanigans, but from what CP said ‘I can be dealt,’ a plausible conclusion could be ‘CP could be soon traded.’ Something of a post hoc fallacy though, right?
For example, when Shaquille O’Neal said ‘Kobe, tell me how my ass taste?’, a plausible headline could be ‘Shaquille requests Kobe to taste his ass.’
The thing that really frosts my butt about this kind of stuff is that its the reason a lot of athletes stay away from Twitter, avoid interviews, etc. As a fan, I like to know what these guys think. If their words get thrown back in their face enough times, they’re going to stop talking. Fanhouse can suck it.
milk it isn’t just one of my favorite nirvana songs: http://www.probasketballnews.com/story/?storyid=651
@$nave
Oh my god, they HAVE to be joking. I left a rude comment. It’ll probably be deleted. It said, basically, this is a nothing story, and the more they insist on writing about it, the more self-serving it looks for their site.
I’m almost embarrassed FOR these people.
Yeah, they want CP3 to issue an “apology” thus getting their website out there for more ad revenue and maybe appearing legit. If it was something to actually lie about, they would have a story. However it is a story about nothing. It is absolutely silly on their part to pursue this anymore. Any NBA player would be foolish to give them the time of day after all of this.
LMAO @ some on another Hornets site throwing CP under the bus without having the full story. Personally I don’t think we’ve heard the full story. CP3 will probably come out and give more. To me it looks like CP3 basically said he COULD be dealt because anything is possible. This writer in turned alluded to CP3 being traded and CP3 said he didn’t say any of this. What I’d like to know is if CP3 is hearing the same thing we’re hearing as far as what he said or what the guy is saying. LMAO @ CP3 being involved in he say/she say.
$nave, I agree. I hope all players zip their lips when they see these guys around. The thing is though, the media are tricky. Have been for a long time and will continue to be. It happens from the pee-ons such as PBN all the way to the big wigs.
Did CP sit down giving this guy a one on one interview or was there a bunch of guys with tape recorders? Is it possible he’s saying he didn’t say any of that to Thomasson because he didn’t actually talk to Thomasson personally? There’s got to be more to this than this. First of all, writers and so called reporters need to stop worrying so much about CP3 leaving New Orleans. This is what has them all going crazy with wanting to write sh*t about the Hornets. The fact that they want CP3 out of New Orleans.
Mo– Also true. Look at LeBron. These types can’t bear the thought of great players in small markets. And it makes no sense. How many endorsements has LeBron James lost out on by playing in Cleveland? Oh right…. none.
It seems to me Tim Duncan has managed to have a great career in San Antonio. I wish there were more players like him.
Makes no sense to me either. Why do writers/media care where a guy plays? If he’s good, he’s good. No matter where he’s playing. CP3 has become a superstar IN New Orleans and they can’t seem to stand it. Sickening.
Good find on the Rondo thing ticktock6.
I mean, of course, anything can happen. Chris Paul could get traded, LeBron could go to the Clippers, and Kobe Bryant could go to the Grizzlies. It can happen… but VERY, VERY UNLIKELY.
In the meantime, I can jump off a roof, too… but it’s very unlikely it’s going to happen. Still, someone will pick it up and put this as a headline, “BLOGGER IS JUMPING OFF A ROOF VERY SOON.”
To quote Garnezie champ from two seasons ago “Anythings Possible!”- But PROBABLE 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 that he will be traded..
@ ticktock6 if PBN isn’t embarrassed by their shameless attempt to manufacture headlines, they should be. They should be ecstatic that Paul even mentioned one of their writers on Twitter, when otherwise, they probably wouldn’t be mentioned by anyone. The fact that they are trying to paint Paul and the Hornets as villains isn’t fooling anyone.
I’m so annoyed, I won’t even add THEM to my shit list. THEY don’t even deserve any more mentioning.
Kind of off topic but ESPN’s Sportsnation is running a poll on the best point guard. Colin Cowturd is one of the hosts on ESPN’s new show Sportsnation. They listed the results from the top 5 and CP was #1. If you check out the poll, you’ll see that CP has basically run away with it. But I was listening to Cowturd and while he said good things about CP, he also said that if he were in L.A. or NY, he’d be a superstar. See, this is what I’m talking about. Newsflash Cowturd. He IS a superstar. What Cowturd probably meant to say was that the media would acknowledge him more if he were in L.A. or NY.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=1&listId=331#topOfList
As expected upon returning to NOLA CP3 would be asked by the NOLA media about this…
http://neworleanshornetsblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/paul-im-not-going-anywhere.html